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Ricci v. DeStefano – Sotomayor and “Reverse Racism”

This is actually not going to be my regular daily post, but a (hopefully) brief report on the controversial Ricci v DeStefano case argued before the current Supreme Court and on which Sotomayor ruled when it was before the Second Circuit, because cadmaris asked for it (hey, I think that’s your first mention). Regular post to come after this.

The Ricci v. DeStefano saga began in 2003 in New Haven, Connecticut when 118 firefighters applied for 15 captain and lieutenant spots. At the time, consideration for promotion to these firefighting positions was based on a multiple-choice exam. Of the 27 black firefighters who applied, none scored high enough to be elligible for the promotion. Only 2 Latinos scored high enough to be considered. The city of New Haven took a look at their method of promoting and decided that it left them vulnerable to a lawsuit under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which made it illegal for employers to use tests that have an unjustified racially “discriminatory effect.” They decided a multiple choice test was not the best way to determine who would make a good leader in the firefighting squad. So no firefighters were promoted at that time. In response, 18  white and (key point) Hispanic firefighters sued the city of New Haven for racial discrimination.

Who the hell is Donny Osmond?

Who the hell is Donny Osmond?

The federal district court ruled in favor of the city. Frank Ricci and his fellow firefighters appealed and the case reached a three-judge panel on the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. Sonia Sotomayor was one of these judges.

Now let’s clarify how an appeals court is supposed to work. The appeals court isn’t primarily deciding whether or not the plaintiff or the defendant is correct. It’s also trying to determine whether the lower court applied proper judicial reasoning to reach its verdict. After initially affirming the lower court’s decision without opinion, the court later submitted a per curiam (by the court as a whole) opinion in which it called the trial court’s decision “thorough, thoughtful, and well-reasoned.”

See, the reasoning behind employing Title VII is that, left to their own devices, institutions may intentionally or unintentionally discriminate against minorities in its regular practices. In the case of the multiple choice exam, the city (which is about 60 percent black) determined the test was unintentionally discriminatory, given that Asians and Caucasians tend to do better on those tests. That in itself wasn’t enough to pull the test, but the city also decided (and whether they did this purely out of fear for this very type of lawsuit is up for debate) that a test wasn’t necessarily a reflection of whether an individual would do well in a promotion. So, in short, fearing it was unintentionally excluding a lot of potentially valuable minority firefighters, New Haven revised its method of promotion.

The trial court agreed with the city that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act was applicable in this case and that the city had the right to revise its promotion practices in the interest of finding truly qualified minority applicants. Sotomayor and the other two judges in the appeals court said this was proper reasoning. That’s what conservatives are calling reverse-racism. She didn’t “enact a racist policy” from the bench. She was upholding a law that already existed…essentialy the very opposite of a judicial activist.

Okay, not about firefighting, but hey, I'm a college student.

<Devil’s Advocate>Lead plaintiff Frank Ricci has been a firefighter for 11 years. He gave up his second job so that he could have time to study for this test. He also paid his neighbor a large sum of money to help him study through flashcards, tapes, and other study aids because he has dyslexia. He scored 6 out of 77 for the lieutenant test. It really sucks that a man who tried so hard for something that apparently meant a lot to him didn’t get his promotion.

Moreover, employers shouldn’t have to live in constant fear of being sued for discrimination. Sometimes the best qualified candidates are, shockingly, white. The legal system should not reward those who try to get by on race alone. Rather than fittiing standards to benefit a certaing group of people, shouldn’t people who want the job work as hard as Ricci did to get ahead?</Devil’s Advocate>

Ricci’s story certainly is sad. And I agree that we’re dangerously close to a society where allegations of racism can lead to a loss in court. However, this isn’t a case where New Haven took the qualified white candidates and replaced all or most of them with black or other minority candidates. These firefighters unfortunately composed the data the year that New Haven decided it wanted to weigh different considerations for lieutenant and captain. And an employer, whether it be a public institution like the firefighter department or a private company, has the right to promote diversity if they feel it would benefit their mission — in this case, serving the citizens who were composed of certain demographics. Lest we cry foul against whites, promoting diversity doesn’t necessarily mean expressly disadvantaging whites or even promoting racial diversity. (After all, it’s more about being poor and blue collar versus being rich and well educated).

And so, while Frank Ricci may deserve some sort of reward for his efforts, this lawsuit would set a dangerous precedent for employer freedoms in promoting diversity should it succeed. The Supreme Court heard oral arguments on April 22. Assuming Stevens, Souter, Kennedy, Ginsburg, and Breyer predictably vote to uphold the lower courts’ rulings, then the city’s policy will hold. Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia will probably vote to reverse it.

But the relevant point is this — anyone using this case as an example of how Sonia Sotomayor is a “racist” either does not know the facts or is deliberately distorting them to push a political agenda….that agenda being “block Obama at every turn.” Conservatives don’t even have a real reason to oppose this appointment. Her philosophy will probably be similar to Souter’s, so the game doesn’t change. They’re just posturing to besmirch Obama, Sotomayor, the Supreme Court, and push their opposition to so-called “judicial activism” (which is only activism if liberals are doing it).

Bottom line: Many conservatives through practice or belief hate the Civil Rights Act, one of our laws. That’s what it boils down to. Had Sotomayor been an activist and ruled that the Civil Rights Act should not have played a part, they would have found something else that indicated that she would bring down some sort of invasion of spics and minorities by crazily enacting policy from the bench (apparently, being part of a group that celebrates Hispanic heritage is a red flag).

All right…what else is going on in the world?

Further reading:

Ricci and Sotomayor – Matt Zeitlin

“Basically, what George Will and Roger Cohen and a lot of Sotomayor’s critics are doing is making a policy argument and then piling on Sotomayor for coming to a legal decision that results in their preferred policy not being implemented.

What’s the phrase for thinking that policy considerations should overhwhelm legal ones? Starts with a J, two words, might end with ism?”

Ricci vs. DeStefano – A Test on Race

In a case decided almost 40 years ago, Griggs vs. Duke Power Co., the Supreme Court explained that Title VII “has not commanded that the less qualified be preferred over the better qualified simply because of minority origins.” Instead, the court said, “What Congress has commanded is that any tests used must measure the person for the job and not the person in the abstract.”

And an article from the opposite side, just so I can say that I’m “fair” (right).

The high court’s decision in the case will come in June, before Sotomayor’s confirmation hearings. The problem for her will not be why she sided with New Haven over Frank Ricci. The four liberal-moderate justices currently on the court are likely to agree with her, in the name of preserving Title VII as a tool for fair hiring. There’s even an outside chance that Justice Anthony Kennedy will follow along. The problem for Sotomayor, instead, is why she didn’t grapple with the difficult constitutional issues, the ones Cabranes pointed to. Did she really have nothing to add to the district court opinion? In a case of this magnitude and intricacy, why would that be?

  1. cadmaris
    May 28, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Hey I don’t get a nickname? Not fair. Also LOL ‘troy’.

    Thanks for writing about it!

  2. May 28, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Cadmaris IS your nickname. Unless you’d like it shortened to Cad?

  3. marine 2.0
    June 4, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    The Civil Rights Act was promoted and passed by conservatives you moronic revisionist. Furthermore it was conservative principles to which the foremost leader of Civil Rights, Martin Luther King, subscribed. The fundamental question boils down to only one thing; If the races of the qualified applicants were not used would they have been promoted? Absolutely! Civil Rights must be upheld for all or it shall fail at its very premise. If the city wants to change their policy fine but do it prior to the game. Rules are rules. Everyone took the same test, were asked the same questions and had the same oportunity to succeed. Civil rights is about the oportunity and clearly the opportunity was definitively established.

  4. June 4, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Dear sir,

    I think it’s a fallacy to compare conservatives of one generation with conservatives of another. Even so, if Martin Luther King Jr. were alive today, what part of the modern “conservatism” would he agree with? The resistance to demanding equality for the races today instead of seeing if the problem corrects itself? The refusal to grant equal rights to homosexuals when it comes to marriage under the law? Maybe he would agree with conservatives on some points and liberals on others. Who are we to say what MLK Jr. would think of today’s politics? But I would say he doesn’t neatly fit into either of the two extremes we play off as political options.

    The fundamental question for me is this: was the exam an acceptable metric for determining what was needed for the job? The timing of the city’s decision was more than unfortunate for the candidates who did well on the test and you’re arguing that they shouldn’t have changed the rules after administering the test. But, why should the city of New Haven HAVE to stick with what they determined was a mistaken policy just because the mistake was already in progress? If you’ve determined that your standards may have been discriminatory, whether blatant or subtle, and you decided diversity is important to your mission, shouldn’t you have the right to correct that as soon as possible?

    The opportunity in the exam was, in the officials’ perspective, clearly established *for a certain race and class.* I’m not going to argue that we should tweak everything until it’s 100% fair, but why are opponents of the ruling insisting that an employer DOESN’T have rights here? Isn’t that usually against what anti-affirmative action fellows argue? We could debate if it’s right that there was fear of a lawsuit, but what if that lawsuit would have been legitimate?

    The city decided to offer a new opportunity. I don’t know enough about it to know if it can be considered equal to both minorities and whites, but I’m confident that, given the sensitivity of the case, they’re trying damn hard. Now, if you tell me that all 15 leadership positions were taken by minorities, I concede the entire argument to you.

    If you’re going to insist that the government should butt out of an employer’s decision to hire white people, then you should also concede that employers, public or private, have the right to hire minorities.

    An interesting point though, sir.

    Sincerely,

    The Moronic Revisionist

  5. Anonymous
    June 22, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    The question is not whether the city can “change their mind” after the test. The question is why did they change their mind? Did they wake up one day out of nowhere and say, wow, our test sucks? Or did they wake up, see that no blacks passed, then come up with a paper thin excuse to why to throw the test out?

    I will go the former…

  6. Shawn
    June 22, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    JUSTICE ALITO: And why didn’t it have a sufficient basis here? It — it chose the company that framed the test, and then as soon as it saw the results, it decided it wasn’t going to go forward with the promotions. The company offered to validate the test. The City refused to pay for that, even though that was part of its contract with the company. And all it has is this testimony by a competitor, Mr. Hornick, who said — who hadn’t seen the test, and he said, I could do a better test — you should make the promotions based on this, but I could give you — I could draw up a better test, and by the way, here’s my business card if you want to hire me in the future. How’s that a strong basis in the evidence?

  7. John Doe
    June 23, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Please people. The facts are clear. Let’s cut the spin. The guys that passed the test got screwed – period. No two ways about it.

  8. John Doe
    June 23, 2009 at 12:30 am

    PS., Phil the Pill, your motto needs to drop the “anti”

  9. June 23, 2009 at 12:49 am

    I’m not arguing that the people who took the test didn’t get screwed. I’m acknowledging that people get screwed all the time. Now, to what extent should our society try to limit that?

    And perhaps I should drop it, John Doe…Tell you what, I’ll give it a try. My goal of creating a discussion isn’t hampered by whether I’m a bullshitter or an anti-bullshitter in the public’s eyes.

    Thanks for commenting.

  10. Shawn
    June 23, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Please explain what a racially biased fire fighter question is. Wouldn’t fire fighters have similar backgrounds in fighting fires. I would think that fire fighter culture would be more influential in the testing process than racial culture.

    But maybe I am ignorant, please, I am eager for an explanation to what a racially biased question looks like.

  11. June 23, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    I believe the argument goes that the test itself is racially based, simply because white people statistically do better on tests. Believe me, I understand how you can call bullshit on that, but this was the city’s decision in its employment.

    I mean, I don’t think I’ve said it differently – *the city wanted minority leadership in its firefighting squad.* Is it fair? No. Is it legal? As of the Civil Rights Act, yes. Is that law outdated? It may be approaching outdated, but I think some still believe it’s necessary.

    The whole point is that this doesn’t make Sotomayor’s decision judicial activism. Considering, our rhetoric is always distorted by the right wing to instill fear of judicial activism, Sotomayor opponents need to reconcile their supposed hatred of activism and their distaste for “reverse racism.”

    Also, to continue my “everyone gets screwed” stance, none of those firefighters got promoted. Not even the minorities. Equal opportunity crapped-on-ness.

  12. Shawn
    June 25, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Unlike others, I am not as concerned to Sotomayor being a supreme court justice. She is replacing Souter, a judicial liberal, so it will not affect the balance of the court in the slightest.

    I find the problem that she didn’t grapple with any of the problems that the supreme court is dealing with right now. She spent 20 minutes asking whether it was right for the fire fighters to name the mayor in the law suit. Her questions and the response of the three judge panel.

    However, I am more concerned with the ruling in general. The fact that the city threw out a test that 60% written and 40% oral with no proof of racism other than it not meeting a quota. The oral panel was made up with over 50% minorities.

    The civil rights act also states that you cannot discriminate based on race of any kind, yes even white people… To say that no one was hurt here is beyond ignorant. To say all were “crapped on” so it is ok is completely wrong. The people who were going to be promoted based on the test have been wronged here. They were not promoted because test does not meet a racial quota. If 17 black people had been promoted based on the test and no whites do you really think there would be the same problems here?

  13. June 25, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    “If 17 black people had been promoted based on the test and no whites do you really think there would be the same problems here?”

    Yes.

    And I would hope so.

  14. Shawn
    June 25, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Well I would disagree with you there.

    My next question would be how do races do in general on standardized professional tests like the LSAT or the MCAT.

  15. June 26, 2009 at 10:46 am

    LSAT:

    * Caucasian test takers have been the largest percentage of test takers. African American test takers and Asian American test takers have been the next largest groups in terms of percentages.

    * Average LSAT scores have been highest for Caucasian and Asian American test takers. African American test takers and Puerto Rican test takers have had the lowest mean LSAT scores.

    # From the 1999–2000 to 2002–2003 testing years, there were slightly more female test takers than male test takers. There were slightly more male test takers than female test takers for the 2003–2004 through 2005–2006 testing years.

    # Male test takers have consistently scored slightly higher than female test takers.

    http://www.lsacnet.org/research/LSAT-Performance-Regional-Gender-Racial-Ethnic-Breakdowns-1999-00-2005-06.htm

    http://carrefoursagesse.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/breakdown-of-sex-and-racial-group-differences-in-lsat-scores/

    MCAT 2005 mean score data for MATRICULANTS
    VR – verbal reasoning
    PS – physical sciences
    BS – biological sciences

    WHITE – VR: 10.1, PS: 10.2, BS: 10.6
    BLACK – VR: 8.2, PS: 8.2, BS: 8.8
    ASIAN – VR: 9.7, PS: 10.8, BS: 10.8
    HISPANIC (OTHER) – VR: 9.2, PS: 9.4, BS: 10.0
    “OTHER” – VR: 10.7, PS: 11.2, BS: 10.9

    http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2005/mcatgparaceeth.htm

    Now, I’m not sure where you’re going with this. To me this shows that white males do well on both the LSAT and the MCAT, blacks and Hispanics don’t do as well, and Asian Americans do well on all tests. Note that there is no category for sub-asian, persian, arabic, or Indian, but that “other” category is very high for the MCAT.

    At the very least that shows that there is something that affects a large portion of certain minorities and hinders their ability to do well on a test, whether that be cultural or systemic. There’s also something that benefits other races. Should we force everything to be equal? Well, of course not, but on a case by case basis, it’s up to the test-givers to decide what to do with that knowledge.

  16. Shawn
    June 27, 2009 at 2:37 am

    Here is where I am going with it:

    Should we sue the test givers of the LSAT and MCAT because it produces “racist” results?

    Are all of these tests really “racist”? What is the simplest explanation here, that all of these professional tests are racist or that there is something else is in play besides racism. I know that might be a tough pill for some to swallow, but the results speak for themselves.

    I think the racial differences are part historical, part cultural, and part socio-economic. To say that it derived solely from anyone source is ignorant. To say that the differences are caused because of racial bias in the test, that is ridiculous. Like I said, show me a racially biased fire fighter question, show me a racially biased law question, and show me a racially biased doctor question… Please, please show me what a racially biased question would even look like.

    Historical in that most African Americans came over here on a slave boat. They were treated as property not people. When the US abolished slavery African Americans were still not treated as people, but some second class third rate people.

    It is cultural in that education is not the top priority in the African American culture. There is also a higher rate of single parent families.

    And it is a socio-economic problem because it is pretty well known that suburban schools systems tend to be a lot better funded then urban school systems. Minorities in general live closer to urban areas than suburban. They tend to be in the poorer school systems, which would understandably lead to lower test scores.

  17. June 27, 2009 at 3:06 am

    I completely agree with you on the primary factor behind the differences in scores among races.

    And so, I believe some institutions, to correct the fact that some people are permanently disadvantaged because of racial history, would believe that intervening to promote diversity would, down the road, lessen the problem.

    Some institutions simply want the people with the best scores.

    And I believe, in most cases, including firefighter promotions, an institution has a right to decide if it wants to stop the cycle of disadvantage or simply continue to take the people who best meet the metric.

    We seem to be coming to an understanding.

  18. Shawn
    June 27, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    So we discriminate based on race to fix discrimination based on race. You are telling white fire fighters it is not good enough to score the best, it doesn’t matter what their score is because the city will throw it out to get black fire fighters a chance.

    This I have a big problem with. I would like to see the promotion of a black cultural that is focused on education, and a lot more money to urban schools. But to give people jobs that they did not earn and at the same time to slap people in the face that did earn the job is not fair. Two wrongs do not make a right, let’s fix the problem of racism by not using racism!

    Besides if you just give people jobs but do nothing to fix the schools and the culture you still many of the same problems. You just have a slightly higher black community in the suburbs who have 50-60k jobs and wanted to escape the city where they will make sure their kids have a better education. That is not worth more discrimination.

  19. Allison Aldrich
    July 13, 2009 at 9:33 am

    Hey Phil–Funny enough, I’m researching the Ricci case for my job, and came upon your blog & article via google… Although you’re on the other side of the issue than me so I can’t exactly quote ya 🙂 Hope your summer’s going well!

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